On Plum learning to see herself differently
A lot of theorists have written about this idea of the gaze and sort of internalizing a gaze. So in the case of women, the way we present ourselves is always to this sort of invisible male eye. It just becomes something that's part of how you function in life. And I think in Dietland part of what Plum does is try and — or the other women try and help her — step out of that, which really shakes her life to its foundation, in a way. To say: I'm not going to see myself as the sexual object, I'm going to try and see myself as I am. ...
I think young girls are taught from a very young age — there's a lot of emphasis placed on "You look pretty," "You look cute." ... That's a tremendous amount of your value and your worth as a person, is how you look. And so I think when you get to be the age of the women that I'm writing about in the novel — so, you know, Plum is in her late 20s — it very much is about sexual attractiveness I think. I mean, of course not for everybody. But I think if we just look at our culture — we look at advertisements, we look at magazines, TV shows, movies — I mean that's really what's in our face all the time.
On how Plum changes by the end of the novel
Plum, at the beginning of the novel, has internalized all this fat hatred. You know, society hates fat people and she's been stigmatized her whole life, so of course she hates herself and she wants to lose weight, which is of course understandable. But then when she meets the women of Calliope House, she begins to think about her relationship with her fat body in a different way. She begins to think, you know, maybe there's nothing wrong with my body; maybe it's the way that other people are treating me. And so I think that she comes to see it as a politicized issue, because it is. I mean, a fat body is always a politicized body.
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On why fat bodies are politicized bodies
I live in a fat body myself and you know ... people assume all sorts of things about me. People look at you and think: Oh, well, she must eat all day or never exercise; she must have an eating disorder. All of these things that are projected onto fat people all day long. So you can never just kind of go about your day as a regular person. So I don't mean political in terms of a political party; I mean structures of power — certain people having power and privilege. And so Plum comes to realize that her fat body, the mistreatment she receives because of it, is a political issue.
On campaigns to end obesity and the message that it's a national disease
I think it's great to focus on healthy eating and exercise, but to say, as people in the health at every size movement do, you can be healthy at any size. You know, exercise, eat healthy; whatever size you are, that's what you are. Because body shaming just doesn't work. And those kind of anti-obesity programs I think are really harming children because it's stigmatizing them. And I just think that, you know, experiencing more stigma and shame is certainly not going to help anyone be healthier.
Read an excerpt of Dietland